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Me: Look Dune is fun to make memes and laugh about but it's a really terrible and objectionable series and dudebros really need to stop making a movie every ten years about it, I'm not giving it my views, I-
The movie: Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho
Me: Damn it!

Queer SF fans: Where oh where are the bold works of science fiction that portray new possibilities of love and relationships, representing the full spectrum of sexuality and gender?
Octavia Butler: *writes in the 80s about cross-species triad marriages involving three genders*
N. K. Jemisin: *writes gay, bisexual, trans, and lesbian characters, portrays the main character in a polyamorous relationship with two men*
Nnedi Okorafor: *portrays cross-species polyamory/extended family including a complex queerplatonic friendship*
Queen SF fans: None is to be found, clearly our only choice is to stan a racist and antisemitic series with zero queer characters by a dead white dude 😔

The works alluded to, in case you want to look them up:

The Xenogenesis trilogy by Octavia Butler
The Broken Earth trilogy by N.K. Jemisin
The Binti trilogy by Nnedi Okorafor

@ljwrites just wait for a bit after it's released, and you can watch an "all the scenes with Jason Mamoa in Dune" super cuts on YouTube. 😅

@xenophora true true and maybe someone will make a compilation of Jason in the movie 👀

@ljwrites there's also samuel r delany who's been writing both sf /and/ criticism of sf through a queer prism as a black guy since the mid 70's at the very least ...

@Milouchkna yuuup it's incredible to me that *Frank Herbert* of all people still has currency in a genre with such brilliant contributions that are exactly what fans say they want- no wait, I believe it all too well.

@Milouchkna @ljwrites My dad introduced me to Delaney's work and I'm glad he did, because he's great.

@ljwrites Looks awesome, going to give these a read/listen-through.

Also a fan of the Wayfarer series, although the writer is white, she's queer :)

@photonicfae They are all amazing! I'm most partial to Binti myself, maybe because I love the main character so much :)

I remember The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet coming up for a vote for SFFBookClub on here!

@ljwrites Awesome!

Yeah, it's great, though personally I connect to A Closed and Common Orbit the most.

I listened through the all the books in the series that are currently out and have audiobook versions with @RadiantEmber and they liked it too, hopefully we can listen through these ones too.

I personally thought the reader/voice actor they chose was fantastic, Patricia Rodriguez did a really good job at portraying each character imo.

@ljwrites I've also preordered the last book in the series too in physical format: The Galaxy, and the Ground Within.

Hope the audiobook won't be out too long after :)

@ljwrites I feel like Dune is to gender studies like fiction about the hollow earth theory is to modern geology, except people still take it at face value.

@ljwrites Kim Stanley Robinson plays with this and body modification in 2312 but it still reads as cis-het to me.

@ljwrites and Ursula Leguin describes some interesting familial/partner arrangements.

@ljwrites and like, The Left Hand of Darkness was published in 1969

@s0 "Product of his times!"

Evidently two USian authors writing in the 60s were in completely different times 🤔

@ljwrites ah, but at like age eight, i was reading sf written by a queer author where the main character learns about how to address someone whose gender does not align with the male/female system, so....

(bruce coville, rod albright series)

@ljwrites so true, his hair is just so pretty and the jawline and just

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