:emacs: 馃摎 

Learning Gnu . Despite being old enough to drive in the States it's pretty good with fundamentals--I didn't realize there were operations you could run from the buffer list window, for instance! I also realized that this must be what inspired Mu4e's email processing system.

For Org Mode I've downloaded the manual and have it loaded on KOReader, and for more recent general Emacs stuff I'm considering a Mastering Emacs, though it does have a pretty hefty price tag.

:emacs: 馃摎馃敄 

Just read about & tried out bookmarks on Emacs and omg :blobcataww: finally a way to bypass that annoying directory structure for often-used but not always-open files! Clearly I need to get IDO-mode working with it, though, to get something like fuzzy search.

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:emacs: 馃摎 馃搧 

Read about and trying out Dired and this isn't bad, honestly! I prefer it to the terminal menu and may not need a dedicated file manager anymore--which is just as well, since I've been avoiding Thunar after it crashed X a couple times.

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:emacs: 馃摎 馃搧 馃 

Okay so some of the Dired commands are outdated, which is fine, it's been like 16 years after all. I can look them up online, no problem, now that I know the broad outlines. Also a surprising number of commands still hold up, for better or for worse.

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:emacs: 馃摎 馃搯 馃槻 

Learning Gnu Emacs: Here's a diary function to keep track of your dates!
Me: Lol there's no way this is still maintained when Org Mode is shipped with Emacs
Me, after trying it: :pika_surprise:

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:emacs: 馃摎 馃搯 馃 

I mean it's very limited--you just keep adding entries on a daily, block, cyclical etc. basis, one per line--and the diary file would get really cluttered after intensive use, but there's also a certain appealing simplicity in simply adding things on without worrying about the complicated functions of Org Mode. If you don't require anything more than a reminder on a certain day it could be useful. Anyway it was a bit of a shock to realize this actually still works!

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:emacs: 馃摎 outline mode lol 

I skimmed the sections on Outline Mode for historical interest because I know Org Mode was based on it, and it has been, shall we say, an unadulterated improvement. Outline Mode had asterisks to mark heading levels with some dynamic key-based controls, and that's about where the similarities end. Some highlights:

- C-c C-a to show all and C-c C-q to hide sublevels and also C-c C-d to hide subheads and body under current heading, got that? Also C-c C-c to hide body AND C-c C-l to hide body + the bodies of subheadings and C-c C-e to show body but not the bodies of subheads and...
- Oh, and C-c C-^ to promote heading and C-c C-v to demote heading
- As far as I can tell there was no way at this point to move the headings up and down, I guess that came later
- "Of course, after the document is complete, you'll want to remove the asterisks. You can use a query-replace to change the asterisk-style headers into headers that are appropriate for your preferred formatting style." :blobcat0_0:

I mean kudos to the work of the devs (including of course those who developed Outline Mode) but this is like a *parody* of Emacs functions omg

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:emacs: 馃摎 , next! 

I think I've gotten more or less what I can out of Learning Gnu Emacs, though I might return to the Elisp chapter if and when I want to write my own functions. It may be old but was good for learning the fundamentals, most of which is current. Unfairly, it may be the discussions of outmoded functionalities like outline mode, diary, and (strangest of all) enriched mode that stay with me the most, though 馃ぃ

I've now moved on to Mastering Emacs, which I'm even more excited about because it's far more modern and I've already learned a lot from the author's blog. The target audience of "technically inclined but not necessarily a programmer" describes me exactly, so I'm looking forward to learning a lot!

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:emacs: 馃摎 when did that happen 

I'm already on Page 128 of Mastering ? I was reading little by little and didn't even skip any pages!

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:emacs: 馃摎 buffers 

I mean I guess it's doable if it's not a drain on the system (and I don't think it should be?) and you have IDO or similar enabled to find what you need quickly, especially since finding files starting from the root director is kind of a pain and recent files isn't enabled by default. Keeping buffers open seems like a kind of quick-and-dirty recent files function, seen that way. Since I read this I've stopped going out of my way to kill buffers, though I doubt I'll get to hundreds or thousands since I regularly close the X server down.

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:emacs: 馃摎 halfway, autocomplete modes 

I am more than halfway through Mastering Emacs and am a little sad about that lol. I just skimmed through the movement sections since I've seen the content a couple of times before and I use Evil Mode anyway. There's a lot of depth to it but it seems mostly useful to devs.

And there was also an explanation of Helm, finally 馃槀 I mean I could have looked it up any time, but just couldn't be bothered. Much like Ivy which I briefly tried because of that System Crafters guy on YouTube, it seems like overkill for me and Ido is plenty enough for now. Maybe I'll check out what's the deal with Fido sometime, though it's not mentioned in he book I think.

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:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@chaomodus I suspected as much 馃様

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@ljwrites I guess I'm just not serious then....

That's okay, I might not be a serious Emacs user but I'm a happy one.

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@JimG "Do you want to be happy or do you want to be a serious Emacs user?"

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@ljwrites Happy!

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@ljwrites "Do all Emacs users have ADHD?"

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@maloki Emacs, where ADHD behavior is totally normal.

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@ljwrites

Yeah, we鈥檙e fine. We just like buffers, okay?

(Also, I tend to work on very large programs with hundreds of source files and I just leave the buffers around in case I need them again.)

:emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@ljwrites Just pulling up an org-mode agenda leaves me with a couple dozen buffers. And my job has me editing many, many different repositories. If I didn't shut down my laptop on a regular basis I'd definitely end up with hundreds of buffers.

re: :emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@ljwrites I don't know, but TIL I'm on my way to become a serious i3 user

re: :emacs: 馃摎 thousands?! 

@kiilas you will figure out how to have thousands of workspaces, I believe in you! :blobcataww:

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