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Is it just me, or are developmental tests more like obedience tests than actual tests of function?

neurotype/medical stuff, the demand to perform 

"This child does not answer when asked by a total stranger what some pictures are."

And here I thought we didn't want kids talking to strangers? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also maybe he doesn't care about the pictures and that's okay.

"This child has severe difficulty with social interaction."

Idk he does fine at home and in his community with people he knows and trusts... maybe he doesn't care about you. Just a thought lol.

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Like I don't want to minimize Tater's developmental delays and the need for intervention. It's just that the process and system for getting him the help he needs doesn't feel respectful or integrative, or even scientifically sound. Are you seriously telling me you can measure my nonverbal 4 yo's IQ based on a one-hour sit-down with some pictures and toys? That seems kinda bs even if IQ itself weren't bs in the first place. Also the total disregard when I told them about the things he does at home, how he thinks in music and tones, how much fun he has with colors and numbers. No, he can't perform to standards with a total stranger, while upset out of his mind because he was forcibly separated from his parents, with picture books he never cared for, so nothing else, no context or setting matters.

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@ljwrites that sounds way too close to a lot of stuff from when I was a kid.
Although in my case it was strongly rooted in not caring about seeking the teachers approval.
The split between teachers who said I was good in school or if I had a very long list of learning disabilities matched the split between teachers who treated the students like people who were there to get an education and the ones who treated students as objects to be shaped.

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@inmysocks and pathologization is, of course, an excellent way to exert control & violence with a humanistic justification 😬

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@ljwrites not to be a dirty anarchist, but so much developmental/neurological classification & codification (c.f. “savant syndrome” of autistic people) is just entirely a system of establishing how capitalist value can be extracted from someone & training them towards that

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@s0 social model of disability is really capitalist model of disability, given the world we live in

neurotype/medical stuff, the demand to perform, pers experience 

@ljwrites that's literally me at that age. Apparently in kindergarten I would just not talk to people I did not trust (and it was hard to gain my trust by most people).

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@VoidDrone and good for little Void XD why should kids talk to strangers on demand anyway, maybe give them a good reason??

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@ljwrites My spouse, who's about 10 times older, had an autism assessment last year where he was criticized for not showing an interest in the assessors or asking them about themselves like they asked him about himself. Which blew my mind: he'd correctly evaluated the situation and the power dynamic, HE wasn't there to assess THEM, and they still tried to punish him for it!

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@error_1202 Ha, I remember that part from my diagnostic appointment. In mine, there was a point where she transitioned from formal-sounding questions into asking me about my weekend or something. I noticed the shift, but I guess NT people are expected to just transition into smalltalk on cue. I don't really do smalltalk, so I just continued answering her questions. Apparently that was another test.

// @ljwrites

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@epilanthanomai @error_1202 @ljwrites oof this is so weird. I mean i wouldn't ask my boss at my tiny unimportant job back about their weekend, I'd just say "good thanks" to acknowledge their display of awareness of my existence. Or like, same for doctors. I'm pretty sure that's usually how small talk works when there are strong power structures or roles.

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@maunzi @epilanthanomai @error_1202 "aHA we have sniffed out the neurodivergent from their unwillingness to branch out into irrelevant tangents because a superior wanted it! Minus one hundred neurotypical points for insufficient bootlicking!"

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@ljwrites @maunzi @epilanthanomai @error_1202 Wh... what the heck, neurotypicals.

/Wow./

neurotype/medical stuff, the demand to perform 

@ljwrites we had those kind of problems with one of our childs doctors. child ended up refusing every task so he told us he couldn't fully evaluate them. Then we switched to a new doctor, and she and child just immediately clicked.
From that point on, evaluations were so easy. Child was given time to develop 'typical' milestones in their own time and we were able to get the right support the child needed when it was really time to do so.

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@ljwrites When I read my autism diagnosis, I feel like it says very little about me, and a lot about the persons who evaluated me (and perhaps about allistics in general,) how they expect a normal person to behave, the unspoken and arbitrary rules that they felt were broken, and so on. But somehow the conclusion is that I have a disorder.

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@ljwrites Which one of us is rigid in their thinking again?

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@alva diagnosing allistics with outdated and impractical prejudice

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@ljwrites @alva It seems obvious to me that modern medical/therapeutic intervention ought to start from the principle that there are a lot of ways to think and it's counterproductive to label them normal and abnormal.

Not sure why that isn't obvious to more allistics.

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